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January 1997 Biomass Cooking Stoves Archive

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From larcon at csn.net Mon Jan 6 13:59:31 1997
From: larcon at csn.net (Ronal Larson)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: welcome (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9701061148.A5238-0100000@teal.csn.net>

 

"Stoves" members:
Mauro had a note on a different list. After asking him about his
interest, he sent the following message which I hope someone on the
stoves list can add to. To the best of my recollection, we have had
noone talk on this list about stove renovation.

Mauro:
I do not recall ever seeing the term "smoke-spiral". Could you
describe your meaning a little. Also. would you describe the term
"majolica". You haven't quite asked our group a question - but I suppose
that you are asking about the best ways to achieve renovation. In fact,
now I wonder if it might be better to sometimes improve antique stove
performance. I hope that you will now add more specific questions and
will share your experiences on what makes for a better stove. I hope
that you don't mind my sending your letter on to the full group.

Ron

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:13:10 GMT
From:vinascoita@icom.icom.it
To: Ronal Larson <larcon@csn.net>
Subject: Re: welcome

Dear Mr.Larson,
Thank you for your warm welcome.
I live at the edge of the former Austro-Ungarian Emperor, nowadays northeast
Italy,
I have always appreciated the fine workmanship to make antique wood stove.
Old tradition of my land, since the 11th century.
Now as connoisseur and antique dealer, I pay my attention to the art of
restoration of ancient majolica wood stove. This involves not only the
technique of "cold" restoration, but also rebuilding the interior, sometime
complex, to make the best of the hot smoke, warming all the inside / outside
stove's wall.
The internal "smoke-spiral" was always different, depends of size, form or
type of wood feed.

Maybe this mailing list is not the right site to share this experience, and
I was going to wait few messages, to understand better the spirit of it.
Your message has given to me the opportunity to show my field of interest;
if this is far from the subject, please let me know.

Yours faithfully.

Mauro Grusovin.


 

 

 

 

From mheat at mha-net.org Mon Jan 6 16:07:47 1997
From: mheat at mha-net.org (Norbert Senf)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: welcome (fwd)
Message-ID: <199701062105.QAA24851@nic.ott.hookup.net>

At 11:56 AM 06/01/97 -0700, you wrote:
Mauro Grusovin wrote:
(snip)
>I live at the edge of the former Austro-Ungarian Emperor, nowadays northeast
>Italy,
>I have always appreciated the fine workmanship to make antique wood stove.
>Old tradition of my land, since the 11th century.
>Now as connoisseur and antique dealer, I pay my attention to the art of
>restoration of ancient majolica wood stove. This involves not only the
>technique of "cold" restoration, but also rebuilding the interior, sometime
>complex, to make the best of the hot smoke, warming all the inside / outside
>stove's wall.
>The internal "smoke-spiral" was always different, depends of size, form or
>type of wood feed.
>

In Austria, there is a ceramic stove builders' guild. They have quite a few
publications available (in German):

Osterrichischer Kachelofenverband
A-1100 WIEN, Paltramplatz 7

You can also do a websearch for "Kachelofen"

Best........Norbert Senf

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Norbert Senf email: mheat@mha-net.org
Masonry Stove Builders website: www.mha-net.org
RR 5 Shawville fax: 819.647.5092
Quebec J0X 2Y0

 

 

From asw at crest.org Mon Jan 13 19:38:17 1997
From: asw at crest.org (Andrew S. Waegel)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: Mind those domain names!
Message-ID: <v03007818af0079fbd036@[206.86.125.32]>

Greetings!

Andrew Waegel here from CREST, the folks 'behind the scenes' of these
mailing lists.

I'm passing on a request from our friends at Crest Graphics, owners of the
'crest.com' domain, which has received numerous messages from folks
attemting to communicate with these lists, which are of course serviced by
the 'crest.org'.

The request is, simply, to mind the email addresses of these lists when
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'crest.org', not 'crest.com'.

This will help to minimize any further confusion.

Thanks very much, and apologies for the intrusion.

Best Regards,

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From tmiles at teleport.com Thu Jan 16 11:00:50 1997
From: tmiles at teleport.com (Tom Miles)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: FWD Message from Mauro (Italy)
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970116075850.00ae70d0@mail.teleport.com>

>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:36:21 GMT
>X-Sender: vinascoita@mailbox.icom.it
>To: stoves@crest.org
>Subject: antique stoves
>X-Attachments: C:\IMAGES\STOVE.JPG;
Attachment removed, message to long. (TRM)

>Dear Mr Larson and Sir members,
>I have appreciated that everybody could read my letter.
>
>Answering your questions:
>-maj(i)olica: It is the thing made with clay, cooked and covered with white
>or coloured glaze and cooked again.
>-smoke spiral: I don't know the exact English name. In Italy we say "giro
>fumi", "the turn of the smoke".
>In other words, it is the path that the warm smoke must follow inside the
stove.
>I have allowed myself to send two basic sketches to better understand.
>The stove A looks like a tower with three or more horizontal obstacles for
>the smoke.
>Another way is to build the obstacles in vertical way, creating a spiral.
>Stove B is like an H, bricks cover only the internal bottom side; less lump,
>therefore less heat accumulation.
>There are few other ways to build the inside.
>
>To all kind members, I have few direct questions:
>-Is there any connection among the stove size/thickness of the
>brick/distance from the flue?
>-Is there any way to force the heated warm air in/around the stove?
>-Did anybody have experience of majolica restoration and its connection with
>heating efficiency and thermic dilatation?
>Which is the best city, site, spot or printed publication in USA/CANADA to
>get in touch with antiquarian or collectors of old stoves?
>
>Thank you to all for your attention and to Mr. Norbert for the info.
>
>
>Mauro Grusovin
>

 

 

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From: tmiles at teleport.com (Tom Miles)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
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From vinascoita at icom.icom.it Fri Jan 17 16:19:12 1997
From: vinascoita at icom.icom.it (vinascoita@icom.icom.it)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: antique stove
Message-ID: <199701172216.WAA32458@icom.icom.it>

Sorry, attachment has been removed. Mauro Grusovin

>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:36:21 GMT
>X-Sender: vinascoita@mailbox.icom.it
>To: stoves@crest.org
>Subject: antique stoves
>X-Attachments: C:\IMAGES\STOVE.JPG;
Attachment removed, message to long. (TRM)

 

 

From tmiles at teleport.com Mon Jan 20 11:47:10 1997
From: tmiles at teleport.com (Tom Miles)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: SWOSTHEE Single Pan Wood Stove
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970120084333.0073fcd8@mail.teleport.com>

Dear Stovers:

I hope you saw this article in the recent issue of BUN-INDIA copied to the
bioenergy list. It can be found at http://144.16.73.100/~mukunda/home.html

Has anyone used one? How does the performance compare to other stoves?

Tom
===============
SWOSTHEE

Single Pan Wood Stove Of High efficiency A Fuel Efficient
Portable Cookstove,
Svathi Bhogle

Swosthee is a portable metallic single pan stove designed at
the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. It has a heat
utilisation efficiency of 32 % which is the highest among
all single pan stoves in India today. Even by a conservative
estimate, usage of high efficiency stoves like Swosthee can
conserve 84 million tonnes of firewood annually in India
alone. Some other salient features of the stove are:

o It is a multifuel stove capable of burning a variety of biomass like
firewood,coconut shells, cowdung cakes, twigs and briquetted
agricultural residue.
o Reduced emissions (CO - less than 20 PPM at the operator level and
Suspended Particulate Matter in the range of 1.0- 1.5 mg/m3). A power
input of 3.5 kW.
o Easy ignition and maintenance.
o Versatility -The stove can be used with vessels of all sizes
and shapes and is suitable for cooking all types of common
dishes.

The Swosthee stove is designed by a team of scient-
ific workers who do not use firewood burning stove as a part
of their daily routine. Their objective was to design astove
with a maximum heat utilisation efficiency, minimum release
of hazardous emissions and as user friendly as could be per-
ceived by them. A survey was therefore carried out among
rural, semi-rural and urban households to obtain first hand
information on stove usage, cooking practices and user
response to Swosthee stoves.A near unanimous conclusion from
the survey was that the Swosthee stove saves fuel and time
and also emits significantly less smoke than traditional
stoves. All types of users found the stove to be sturdy,
stable and easy to ignite and maintain. Other inferences that
can be drawn from the survey are:

The Swosthee stove is ideal for a family size of 5-6
members.
The Swosthee stove is especially suited for houses having
roofs made of reinforced concrete,asbestos or other sheets
and thatch.
The Swosthee stove has a high acceptability among househo-
lds living in urban slums where the size of the house is
small.
The survey also categorically confirmed that the two most
important attributes that a potential user is looking for in
a cooking device is a reduction in the cooking time and a
saving in the fuel bill. Swosthee stoves will meet the cook-
ing requirements of a variety of users not only in India but
elsewherein the world as well besides reducing deforestation
and emission of hazardous emissions.

For further information or correspondence please Contact:

Mrs. Gayathri V
Combustion Gasification & Propulsion
Laboratory, [CGPL]
Indian Institute of Science
Bangalore 560 012, India

E-mail: gayathri@aero.iisc.ernet.in
Fax: +91-80-3341683
Tel : +91-80-3348536, +91-80-3092338

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From B.Tremeer at mail1.remote.uva.nl Mon Jan 27 08:35:42 1997
From: B.Tremeer at mail1.remote.uva.nl (Grant Ballard-Tremeer)
Date: Tue Aug 31 21:35:03 2004
Subject: Possibilities for internships/stages?
Message-ID: <199701271237.NAA03134@mail.uva.nl>

I have been out of circulation for many months with more work than time, and
even now my message does not contribute anything, but only makes some
general requests...

Firstly, I am looking for somewhere to do an internship (as part of my
course) somewhere in the energy planning/policy/management arena for two
months or longer. I am particularly interested in working in the future in
an (international?) engineering/environmental consultancy so something which
would contribute to this aim would be excellent. Can anyone give me some
leads to follow? Any contacts in the US?

Secondly, I have a friend from the Czech Republic who would like to do some
volunteer work over the summer break in a developing country. She is from a
scientific background with an MSc and (by then) a Masters in Environmental
Management. Does anyone know of any projects she could work on? Perhaps in
Africa or South America?

My thoughts about stoves are currently on hold! But, be assured, this is
only a temporary situation...

All the best to one and all
Grant

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